the other part of this, you have not mentioned it, is pakistan. pakistan is the most important and critical element in this entire equation for the reasons most people understand. i think at this point, and i think panetta and the president are right in the direction they're taking this, is accelerate that combat timeline, withdrawing nato and american forces out of there and down, eventually, because an international peace conference is probably what is going to be required. when i say in international peace conference, i think you will have to bring the iranians into this, certainly the taliban will be in it, the government of afghanistan, we are, others. i don't know how else you resolve this. this is going to go on for a while. this will not be resolved with one peace treaty, but the continuation of the path we're on now is only going to make it worse. we have a situation in pakistan where we are right on the cusp in a seriousally way. we don't want that to happen because then we come loose of all our diplomatic moorings. we still have troops